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Why Gun Permit Records Maybe Should Be Public

January 4, 2013
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Last week Rep. Pat McDonough proposed doing for Maryland what something like 30 other states have already done: make secret the state’s list of who is permitted to carry a concealed handgun.

I was vacationing in my home state of Connecticut at the time, so I missed all the hubbub about the proposal and the newspaper whose handy map of concealed carry permittees inspired it.

This I regret, because I have direct experience in this matter. In 1987, I may have unwittingly set in motion the cascade of public information restrictions that have now become common sense to many—even some in the media. I did it by asking for the list of concealed carry permit holders in my hometown of Fairfield, neighboring Westport and Norwalk, and Bridgeport, Connecticut.

Only Bridgeport, whose chief of police had already told me that his officers try to thwart ordinary citizens from obtaining permits because “it’s their right to have them, but we don’t like them to know that,” refused to hand over the list.

“It would provide a shopping list for criminals,” the city’s lawyer argued at a hearing of the Connecticut Freedom of Information Commission, which ruled that the information I requested was public and should be released.

The city appealed and lost. So they appealed to the state Supreme Court where, in 1992, five years after I’d asked for the list, the city lost again.

I’d moved on by then. I never got the list and I never wrote the story. But I think it’s important for people to know just what the hell I thought I was doing back then in asking for such—if today’s standards are to be honored—sensitive information:

I was trying to help ordinary city residents get their gun permits.

My best friend, Victor, who like me was in his young 20s and like me had no criminal history, had tried repeatedly to obtain a concealed carry permit. He owned a .357 magnum revolver and a Walther PPK semi-automatic. He and I had fired both at the nearby Blue Trail range.

I wasn’t interested in getting a permit for myself—or a gun, for that matter. But I thought it odd that a citizen should have his paperwork repeatedly “lost,” and when the chief revealed his attitude I thought it was noteworthy.

My editor at the time, Jim Motovalli, and I also suspected that there were well-connected people in Bridgeport and elsewhere who obtained their permits without fuss. In Bridgeport, we speculated that a few known criminals would have them as well.

Back then there was no way we could have printed the whole list, and the internet had not yet been invented, as far as we knew. Our intention, then, was to comb the lists for names we knew, and check it against court records.

The situation in Bridgeport in 1987 was not unlike the situation in Maryland, 2013. In our state one still must give a “good and substantial reason” for wanting to pack heat; “good and substantial” being somewhat malleable terms of art, legally-speaking. It is suspected that the reasons proffered by politically influential individuals  needn’t be as good nor as substantial as those claimed by less lofty citizens. But all this may change soon, on account of a U.S. Supreme Court.

Or it may not.

Connecticut was in 1987, and is today, a “shall issue” state. The Bridgeport police chief’s informal obstructionism then thwarted the plain intent of the state law (and, some believe, the U.S. Constitution). But there was no way for the broad mass of citizens to know about this or to think about it, because the gun permit lists were unexamined by outsiders.

And that’s how they have stayed ever since.

In 1994, in the dark of night, a Connecticut state legislator—it is unknown who—attached an amendment to some state appropriations bill. The amendment passed without debate. It passed without most legislators knowing it was even there. The amendment did in Connecticut then what Mr. McDonough seeks to do in Maryland now: closed the gun permit lists to reporters.

It also closed the list to everyone else, according to a 2006 story about the case in the (Bridgeport) Connecticut Post:

The way the law stands, even local law enforcement officials cannot access the state’s list of licensed gun permit holders. “For an officer to get this information, there has to be a valid investigation in progress,” said Sgt. J. Paul Vance, the State Police spokesman. “An officer can’t get this information just because they’re curious about someone.”

All of which may have been inevitable. Bills to do the same have rained down on state legislatures each year for two decades. They are inspired by four ideas that I think need correction—or, at least, debate. They are:

  1. This is a list of legal gun owners whose privacy is being violated by its publication. It is no such thing. Very many people have handguns in their homes but no permit to carry them in public. Many others—myself included—own so-called “long guns” which require no permit to keep or carry. The idea that a list of people with concealed-carry permits is similar to a list of firearms owners—a “shopping list for criminals,” as my long-ago legal adversary put it—is absurd on its face. Has anyone ever presented any evidence that any gun thief—or any criminal, anywhere, ever—used a list of carry permit holders to choose a burglary victim?
  2. Journalists are anti-gun; the media is anti-gun; all such snooping into permit lists is self-evidently for the purpose of harassing gun owners. Well, no. Though the reactionary provocateur Michelle Malkin asserts it and no less a scholar than Charlton Heston himself berated the fourth estate on this point, [Here’s a podcast of his seminal 1997 speech to the D.C. Press Club]  it is simply not so that every reporter is anti-firearms or that every media outlet is trying to discourage legal gun ownership. In my case, in 1987, the plan was to expose the corruption of a system that would grant permits to some but discourage un-politically-connected citizens such as my friend Victor from obtaining the permit to which they were legally entitled. The whole idea was to see if the permitting process was fair. And we knew that it wasn’t.
  3. Registration leads inevitably to confiscation. The NRA folks really seem to think that, but they base their conjecture on the experiences of other countries, like Australia and Britain.  These are the same people who, most often, consider American Exceptionalism to be a settled fact. I’ve not yet seen anyone square that circle but, as in all matters of faith, it is unlikely that anyone ever will.
  4. The publication of a person’s home address is a prima facie invasion of their privacy, subjecting them to unwarranted scrutiny if not imminent physical attack. This paranoia has grown up mightily during the past two decades, as well-publicized stalking incidents led to reforms of FOI laws in many states. In 1989 the actress Rebecca Schaeffer (“My Sister Sam”) was killed by a stalker who allegedly obtained her home address from a P.I. who got it from the California Department of Motor Vehicles by filling out a simple form.   The incident led to a wholesale shutdown of that previously routine reporter’s resource. That the deranged killer got his gun semi-legally by asking his brother to buy it for him was not much discussed.

Any of the above ideas may be debatable. However, they are not undisputed facts self-evidently supporting new restrictions on information gathering. It may come as a surprise to some readers—and some lawmakers—for example, that one’s home address is not—cannot—be a state secret. Does anyone remember the White Pages? Not so long ago, almost everyone’s home address and home phone number was listed there for anyone to see (you had to pay a private company to unlist it). It was a terrible time, I’ll say—people calling up each another willy-nilly, stalking each other left and right, shooting out their enemies’ porch lights under cover of darkness. . . .

Not long before that there existed something called a “City Directory,”  in which every business and person in town was listed, with their home address as well as now highly-classified stuff like their employer and occupation—sometimes even physical handicaps.

As a matter of course, newspapers published the addresses of crime victims—and their perpetrators—and no one thought anything of it. Certainly, no one retaliated by publishing reporters’ home addresses–because these were already widely known.

Of course, back then, privacy was taken somewhat more seriously than it has been lately. Facebook did not yet exist,  so there was not such unfettered access to drunken, semi-naked photos of almost everyone under the age of 26. (And so students of elite colleges like Johns Hopkins did not require an internet-trail-cleaning kit so that employers would not reject their applications out of hand—the way they obviously do for those from less glorious educational precincts.)

All of which to say: however one defines one’s own idea about “privacy,” government-controlled information ought to be subject to outside scrutiny. Gun enthusiasts, with their well-rehearsed aversion to state power, should understand this.

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  • HS

    Right. This was a clear attempt to attach a criminal stigma to gun ownership by
    using the same tactics employed for sex offender registries.What’s the first thing The Journal News did after the backlash of publishing the home addresses of CCW holders? Went out and got themselves some guns.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/03/nyregion/putnam-officials-keep-gun-permit-records-from-journal-news.html?_r=1&

  • http://twitter.com/EdwardEricsonJr Edward Ericson Jr

    Appears that any “criminal stigma” associated with this is in the mind of those offended. As for the JR’s reaction, well, the JR people were threatened. By people with guns. Not so the people they “exposed” by publishing already-public information. See the difference? No, of course you don’t.

  • Tom Swiss

    Interesting history. However, regarding “That the deranged killer got his gun semi-legally by ask­ing his brother to buy it for him was not much discussed.” — straw purchases are not “semi-legal”. They are 100% illegal. That this law is rarely enforced is one of many ways that gun control laws fail.

  • Tom Swiss

    From the NYT story linked above: “Ms. Hasson declined to elaborate on any specific threats to the newspaper’s staff…The police report said that e-mails received did not contain threats…”

    Making an unsupported claim that people were threatened people with guns would be sloppy journalism. Please cite your source or retract your claim.

    And of course some of the people they “exposed” (punting the public records thing for the moment) got those guns because they were threatened by someone. That’s one reason why people are upset about the “exposure”.

  • http://twitter.com/EdwardEricsonJr Edward Ericson Jr

    I got my gun because I was threatened. So what? My point is that publishing a list of concealed carry permit holders is not necessarily an insult or affront (or a threat) to those permitees–not that having a gun is somehow bad. The threats to the journalists were many and varied, including the ol’ white powder-in-an-envelope trick. Oh, but we don’t know that all this hullabaloo came from “people with guns!” Right. Totally sloppy. Just as likely it was puppy owners upset about the over-representation of little kitty pictures. Or swag from the talc industry that was somehow unlabeled.

  • http://twitter.com/EdwardEricsonJr Edward Ericson Jr

    This is true. But I don’t know that the killer in question was, at the time he got that gun, a prohibited person. He may have been. As easily he may not have been, because mere mental illness (without a conviction) does not disqualify. And mental health records are private. Which makes keeping guns out of the hands of nutbags problematic.

    What’s needed, obviously, is a list of diagnosed psychos, so we can prevent them from getting arsenals ahead of time. Except . . .

    Do we want the cops–or the feds–to keep a master list of the mentally-ill? Who would decide what constitutes sufficient illness to get on that list? Or off it? What checks and balances could we put on those people so they did not abuse that power? Would those checks and balances not require those mental health records to be, in effect, open records?

    And, knowing that seeing a counselor could lead one to be placed on this list, would such a database keep people who need help from seeking it?

    Here is where the debate needs to go.

  • Steve

    “It is no such thing. Very many peo­ple have hand­guns in their homes but no per­mit to carry them in pub­lic.”

    I don’t know what the laws are elsewhere, but I’m pretty sure you need a permit to (legally) have a handgun in your home in Rockland County.

  • Gerald Lynch

    2nd AMENDMENT interpretation means : The Government and Congress shall make no law to infringe on the right of the people to keep and bear arms;PERIOD;WHAT PART OF NO does Anti-gun promoters not understand.It means NO LAWS WHAT SO EVER. Sink THAT INTO your HEADS PEOPLE.IT MEANS NONE! And That includes any action or rulings by the SUPREME COURT which should not have even heard any discussion on this Unaliabule Right of the PEOPLE.There is no discussion of the right it is the Guaranteed; not Questionable PERIOD.people its your freedom to remain free from tyrant leaders who may expose their forceful desires on the American people as Brittan did.To form a well rounded Militia means not just the armed forces it means YOU AND ME AS CITIZENS to guard against internal tyrants to make us do what they want instead of the Peoples will.And to protest our local communities from invasion when the armed forces can not be there in time or no time to keep you free of alien forces bearing down on your community.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=660315324 Sebastian Sassi

    There are a couple big problems with publishing such a list. One, a lot of permittees are people who are hiding from dangerous stalker exes who want to find them. It’s a road map for finding battered women if you’re a crazy murderous domestic abuser. This has been a problem for more than a few women in NY.

    Two, it’s a road map for GUN FREE HOMES for criminals to use when selecting places to knock off. You’re putting everyone at risk not just gun owners.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=660315324 Sebastian Sassi

    Even if registration doesn’t lead to confiscation, it WILL lead to other problems–any call to the police for service will involve them coming to your home in a heightened state of alertness, guns drawn, shooting dogs, etc. It will invariably lead to the taxation of firearms ownership, and if you seriously doubt this you’re clearly insane. It WILL. In fact the people pushing this idea usually make it clear they want to tax gun owners, so please spare us the protestations to the contrary, anti gun folk…don’t insult our intelligence.

    It might also lead to insurance companies adding riders that are essentially also a tax on your health and homeowners and life insurance policies.

    We can have a less discriminatory carry permitting process without opening this pandora’s box.

  • http://twitter.com/EdwardEricsonJr Edward Ericson Jr

    But Sebastian, given that some people have guns, but no carry permit, how is it possible that a list of houses where no one with a carry permit resides is a list of houses with no guns?

  • http://twitter.com/EdwardEricsonJr Edward Ericson Jr

    Sebastian, I know you took a lot of vandalism and threats when you were in Pigtown, and I don’t want to minimize that. But the idea that a person’s home addy is “secret” is more toxic than anything else being discussed around this gun issue. Seriously. Unless you’re in the witness protection program, people are going to be able to find out where you live. And it’s really not a problem–it’s a good thing–if you want to live in a free and open society. Cops, judges, abortion docs and battered women are (or might be) special cases. I hope it stays that way. Do you hope otherwise?

    As for taxes, I don’t understand your argument. You state it as fact that “it will lead to…”. Well, how? WHAT exactly will lead to WHAT? But more important: if a gun tax comes, so what?

  • http://www.facebook.com/william.bond.10 William Bond

    The subject article was a fine article and Mr. Ericson is a fine writer, but Mr. Sassi’s concerns, legitimate or not, as well as Mr. Ericson’s reply are pretty much moot now, from a practical sense. NY State, in passing their recent ‘most restrictive’ gun laws in USA, specifically got rid of having any gun ownership records as part of the public information stream. Maryland politicians have introduced similar laws. Betting people would mostly say this issue is now decided as a matter of public policy, and will be copied in every other state. While, certainly, it could be litigated ad nauseum, from a practical stand point, the issue is decided.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=660315324 Sebastian Sassi

    Battered women who’ve taken great steps to NOT be easy to find being “outed” this way is a serious concern Ed. Let’s not belittle that.

    I’m all for a free and open society, but you can have that and still protect people who don’t deserve to have worry about crazy exes finding them because some pseudojournalist felt like “shaming” gun owners.

    It’s nobody’s goddamn business whether I own a gun or not (putting aside that in my public life I made no bones about it and have strong reason(s) to suspect being armed is why I’m still here).

    The so-what is I’m no more in favor of my right to be armed being taxed than I am of my right to vote or to speak or to worship as I choose being taxed. There’s a reason poll taxes have been found unconstitutional. The Tammany Hall politicians with one-party power in Annapolis could simply make gun ownership prohibitively expensive. It’ll lead that way pretty simply–by legislative fiat.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=660315324 Sebastian Sassi

    If it’s a list of “permits to own” as opposed to permits to carry, I think that’s a self evident scenario.

    FWIW I’m all about places like New York City having their list exposed for people to see generally (as long as battered women are left off…and I gather they’re pretty rare as I’ll bet the typical NYC govt response to a woman who wants a carry permit is to go fuck herself unless she’s rich and famous)–places with discriminatory carry policies like NYC hand out permits like candy to the rich and famous and reinforce the notion that they’re engaged in elitism, not liberty.

    If Donald Trump and Bobby DeNiro can carry there and you and I can’t, something is very, very wrong.

  • http://www.facebook.com/william.bond.10 William Bond

    Dude, see my above comment. Do you even follow the news…? Issue is decided. Your complaints are now moot for well over a week! Or, do you just ‘Need attention?’

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=660315324 Sebastian Sassi

    No, but apparently you need to be a pedantic idiot. Seeing as NY isn’t the only state with registration on the table (hello, MD?) nor a discriminatory carry permit policy needing slapped by a higher court (which is likely about to happen), these issues are going to continue to be relevant to gun owners everywhere. Especially given the likely ill-fated by persistent efforts by many at the Federal level to push for similar measures.

    Troll somebody else, fuckwad.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=660315324 Sebastian Sassi

    (Though I’m sure the flimsy “protections” that’ll probably be relaxed as soon as Bloomberg wants them to be in NY are of little consolation to the people already “outed” who had a very legitimate reason for not wanting to be. But feel free to parade around shouting about how the barn door’s already shut like a self-satisfied lout, I’m sure that’s compelling to the people whose horses already out).

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=660315324 Sebastian Sassi

    And what the fuck dude? Ed and I were discussing whether or not having the records be open makes sense and the politics of may-issue carry laws–whether they’re currently sealed or not is really not at all what we were discussing–and now that the law has been rushed into place in NY in a rather haphazard fashion, you can bet the issue will only be that much more at the forefront. Talk about needing attention, I guess you felt the need to reinsert your irrelevant ass into the discussion again?

    I can’t imagine not having anything better to do than be more of an asshole than is required. I guess it really chapped your ass nobody was discussing your note about the fact that the records had been sealed, which in no way precluded Ed and I from discussing whether that makes sense.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=660315324 Sebastian Sassi

    As discussed, yes, we get it–but since the rest of us were discussing whether sealing said records makes sense and not whether they are sealed, save the current events lecture for a time when somebody actually wants it.

    FTR, a quick glance over the onerous gun laws O’Malley and Frosh are pushing for MD suggests little similar protection for the proposed body of registrants SB281 would create. Care to share where you got the idea that MD’s offering similar protections from? Which bill?

    The problem with gun registries: legislatures can on a whim change whether they’re available or not to public entities or private persons at a moment’s notice. They can’t uncreate the registry once it exists and is shared.

  • http://www.facebook.com/william.bond.10 William Bond

    Dear Mr. Sassy, you pretty much prove my point. You and Ed, as you call him, can have all the discussion you want, say in a bar or private email, but having to see it pan out on the right side of my computer screen every 5 seconds is the definition of pedantic, especially when the issue is, from a legal perspective, for all practical purposes, moot. That means — insert your own ad hominem description for yourself — that you are boring me senseless. Take it inside as they say…

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=660315324 Sebastian Sassi

    Nobody’s making you follow the conversation, ye annoying master of the obvious. You made your petty contribution (one that is fairly specious: because NY decided they didn’t like the negative feedback on shaming gun owners and decided to knock it off doesn’t mean the issue Ed–who I call many things but not late for dinner–is raising here is entirely rendered moot, quite the opposite in fact), and can bugger off at any moment.

    Seems quite clear this is indeed an issue Ed wanted to discuss with the public, or else he wouldn’t have penned the column and posted it where anyone with 3 minutes and an IP address can see it. So actually…we’re having a public conversation that you’re welcome to ignore, and since you’ve little contribute beyond trolltasticness I gather you won’t be missed.

    Hugs and kisses and all that, sweetie.

  • http://www.facebook.com/william.bond.10 William Bond

    Keep proving my point… It doesn’t take 9 comments and running to make a point which can be said in sentences. Ad hominem, which you’ll have to Google, is not argument. You don’t know a thing about gun laws or how Maryland enacts them, and I say this as a person who ‘carried’ for 10 years. Reading you is like listening to a drunk in bar — repetitive and incoherent.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=660315324 Sebastian Sassi

    And yet you keep typing nonsense and nothing approaching a relevant or topical response. One of the perks of having a BA in Philosophy isn’t getting a job…but it sure is getting to point out to idiots like you that ad hominem doesn’t mean what you seem to think it means. But as the former president and board member of Maryland Shall Issue and a former RKBA lobbyist in Annapolis, I can assure you I’m quite familiar with how MD enacts (or as is usually the case…doesn’t) gun laws and how they work, and will happily–as someone who’s also carried for the last decade–put what I know up against what you know there.

    Get busy googlin, Sparky.

  • http://www.facebook.com/william.bond.10 William Bond

    Like I said, and ‘runnin’…’ Nice touch adding your degree in sophistry. Didn’t know a BA meant shit… And, after your bona fides, which clearly scream — I failed — boy, really want to hire you — you would know one thing for sure: Talking about gun rights in Maryland is, and will be for the foreseeable future, an utter waste of time. Advice: go back to school, learn something like how to write a coherent thought and how to present it concisely, then get a real job. Cuz, blogging ain’t gonna’ make it for ya’ pal.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Eric-Specht/100000975374424 Eric Specht

    What that will lead to is people being forced to pay to exercise a constitutional right, that’s so what. In the same way that a poll tax is illegal, a gun tax should be illegal too. Nowhere in the Constitution is there any provision for registering firearms or reporting how many of what type you own to any agency, government or otherwise.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=660315324 Sebastian Sassi

    Wow, that’s a whole lot of effort to libel someone needlessly Billy.

    I suppose I could have dozens of folks from MSI point out that I did serve on the board and briefly chair the organization. And all the time I spent in Annapolis pestering our representatives I guess I just made up right? But what would be the point? MSI is an ALL VOLUNTEER private organization and as such what we do and what I did in Annapolis isn’t going to appear in any registry.

    My carry permit was perhaps one of the most well documented ones in MD’s sordid anti-rights history, so its existence would qualify as “news to you”, asshole. Ed himself has seen it, but keep spouting the bullshit buddy.

  • http://www.facebook.com/william.bond.10 William Bond

    Don’t think we are on first name, familiar-like basis, Mr. Can’t pee … errr… shoot straight pussy–boy, err… sassy-boy. Couldn’t care less about your MSI guys ‘n what they have to say about you being impotent, brief as it might have been… But, if you want, bring em’ forward, make all MSI links live as far as BOD (Board of Directors for your pee brain), etc., for authentication and confirmation purposes, public info, etc., la la la… Can’t wait for the excuses re; that.

    RE: Libel, sue me… Bottom line, you perjured yourself w/o being under oath, same though by facts — you either are, or are not, a lobbyist, and clearly, as you like facts and stats so much — you are a LIAR. Just see your own brag — I am a ‘Lobbyist’ when you NEVER were – also love how you now claim being a lobbyist is now called being a ‘pesterer.’ (Did you know falsely claiming to be a lobbyist is a crime?)

    But, is it ‘needless,’ as you say, to point out your own confession? To use a word like libel — go to a fucking attorney and have him laugh you out the door with this one. Q:? Do words or facts mean one thing to you? Please explain that in detail w/o resorting to ad hominem — err… ‘name calling’ to you. Specifically, why is it not a mental illness to make up your bona fides — being a ‘lobbyist’ when you are not, nor ever were?

    What is clearly not libel is that you ARE, not WERE — just a guy who couldn’t turn around, when it mattered, be a man, and stand. All else is just your emasculated whining self about this and that… Does your gun and imagined ‘carry’ permit change that? That you also think your alleged carry permit, which is so well-documented, is so important, well, no one else cares or knows about it… I could point out where to look in the DSM IV, but then you wouldn;t know what that is?

    In sum, a note about proper writing: people you don’t know are Mr. in public, unless you were at ‘Ed’s’ house for Thanksgiving…

    My name is William Bond. Happy to met you any time, any place, like say on the steps of central booking, so as to not waste the public’s dime putting your pee brain where it belongs.

    Being a liar is far worse than being a mugger…

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=660315324 Sebastian Sassi

    Today’s word kids is PROJECTION.

    As in, wow, you’re doing it quite a bit and making it pretty obvious you need psychiatric help in the process.

  • http://www.facebook.com/william.bond.10 William Bond

    Said the man in the straight jacket, in the padded room, who kept wailing – I am a lobbyist… Why, exactly, can not you answer, factually, that lie? Why did you claim to be a lobbyist, when you never were?

    Notice, each time a fact is alleged, your reply is ad hominem, straight out of DSM IV — grandiose, narcissistic, borderline personality disorder. But, you knew that already, from prior testing. Projection. Shit. Look in the mirror, boy. I take no responsibility for your lies, your illness.

    Feel sorry for your kids (teach them to make up their bona fides too?) and abused wife…

    Now, so as not to litter CP with more of your crying, I would love for you to speak to me face to face like you do behind your poor grammar, poor writing, and poor manhood.

    Here ya’ go — proselitigator@aol.com

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=660315324 Sebastian Sassi

    Christ on a stick, I go away four days and all you’ve got is troll behavior and kindergarten bullshit?

    Dude, grow up. You can’t hurt my feelings and your trash talk is weak. But if you’re curious…you should read up on the articles Ed wrote about me. You might find it edumacational.